and i would debate this with the nra until the cows came home. and on the other side of the fence, the extreme left liberal people that think they're going to wave a magic wand and make 300 million weapons you're aware of go away. >> you're going to create a black market. >> new york has the most restrictive gun laws in the united states. we have very good gun laws. we now have the biggest black market for them also. they filter in from georgia, virginia, arizona. you know, we know where they're coming from. i go back and say what i've said before, uh yo eve got to have resources to go in and arrest that problem and we don't have it. >> and the president says we need to have meaningful changes in this country when it comes to gun laws and a meaningful conversation. and that means not politicizing it in washington. >> we need compromise. >> thank you. >> my pleasure as always. >> most of us can't even imagine what the people here in newtown are going through right now. but tin we spoke to some people didn't have to imagine it. years ago. columbine